{"id":3330,"date":"2011-10-20T00:27:20","date_gmt":"2011-10-20T04:27:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3330"},"modified":"2011-10-20T00:27:20","modified_gmt":"2011-10-20T04:27:20","slug":"the-benoit-mandelbrot-fractal-art-contest-2011-judging-the-judging","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3330","title":{"rendered":"The Benoit Mandelbrot Fractal Art Contest 2011: Judging the Judging"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If they&#8217;re going to&#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>not consider a second artwork by any artist<\/li>\n<li>rearrange the judging results to include a &#8220;wider range&#8221; of styles<\/li>\n<li>declare in the rules they don&#8217;t want &#8220;garish&#8221; art<\/li>\n<li>let the Honorary members influence the results<\/li>\n<li>have a discussion to decide the final winners<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8230;then why do they have all those judges in the first place?<\/p>\n<p>And what exactly does this mean?<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3331\" style=\"width: 406px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalartcontests.com\/2011\/rules.php\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3331\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3331\" title=\"Capture01\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Capture011.png?resize=396%2C381\" alt=\"\" width=\"396\" height=\"381\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3331\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">From the BMFAC 2011 site, rules section<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Apparently the Honorary Presidents aren&#8217;t &#8220;judges&#8221; and yet they are considered to be <em>Selection Panel Members?<\/em> But they &#8220;did express their own choices&#8221;.\u00a0 How?\u00a0 To whom?<\/p>\n<p>I would expect the Honorary Presidents to be judges.\u00a0 Isn&#8217;t that what the above screenshot from the Rules suggests?<\/p>\n<p>My point is: if they&#8217;re going to do so much adjusting of the judging then why bother having 12 people vote.\u00a0 Wouldn&#8217;t that just create a great deal of noise rather than clear results?\u00a0 Wouldn&#8217;t it simply create the need for one person or a few senior people to step in and break ties and chose which image by a popular artist becomes their only winning one?<\/p>\n<p>Dave Makin, (a judge) in a <a href=\"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3299#comment-1540\">recent comment<\/a> here has shed some light on the judging process and for that I really am grateful.\u00a0 But I question just how much any one judge really knows about the actual selection since there&#8217;s so many of them and the expressed need to show &#8220;diversity of fractal styles&#8221; and a whole bunch of other rather subjective things stated in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalartcontests.com\/2011\/rules.php\">official rules<\/a> makes it a task that necessitates some strong oversight and direction.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I think that big list of judges is nothing more than a smokescreen to justify a whole lot of &#8220;adjusting&#8221; to go on.\u00a0 Call it a &#8220;discussion&#8221; but it defeats the entire purpose of having 12 people judge if the results aren&#8217;t going to be honored and a whole lot of negotiating is to go on afterwards.\u00a0 It creates a situation where each judge really has very little say in the final outcome and their votes cancel each other out.\u00a0 And where the final results can be claimed to be a group decision when in fact no group that sizes is capable of coming to any clear decision on 25 pieces of art.\u00a0 You end up with an exhibition that no one voted for.<\/p>\n<p>From that sort of &#8220;judging&#8221; comes the sort of &#8220;winners&#8221; we&#8217;ve seen this year.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If they&#8217;re going to&#8230; not consider a second artwork by any artist rearrange the judging results to include a &#8220;wider range&#8221; of styles declare in the rules they don&#8217;t want &#8220;garish&#8221; art let the Honorary members influence the results have a discussion to decide the final winners &#8230;then why do they have all those judges &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3330\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":3334,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3330","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/image1.jpg?fit=400%2C330&ssl=1","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3337,"url":"https:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3337","url_meta":{"origin":3330,"position":0},"title":"Benoit Mandelbrot Fractal Art Contest 2011: Judging Part 2","author":"Tim","date":"20 October, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"And another thing... 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