{"id":2769,"date":"2011-07-16T12:44:47","date_gmt":"2011-07-16T16:44:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=2769"},"modified":"2011-07-16T13:12:21","modified_gmt":"2011-07-16T17:12:21","slug":"will-the-old-timers-at-the-bmfac-accept-the-new-breed-of-3d-fractal-artists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=2769","title":{"rendered":"Will the Old-Timers at the BMFAC accept the new breed of 3D fractal artists?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Responses at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalforums.com\/competitions-and-contests\/international-benoit-mandelbrot-fractal-art-contest-2011\/\">Fractal Forums.com <\/a>to the recent announcement of the Benoit Mandelbrot Fractal Art Contest 2011 suggest to me that a lot of things have changed in the fractal art world since the BMFAC was initiated back in&#8230; <em>\u00a1Ay, caramba!<\/em>\u00a0 &#8211;2006!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>~ Click on images to go to original site ~<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2772\" style=\"width: 590px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalforums.com\/competitions-and-contests\/international-benoit-mandelbrot-fractal-art-contest-2011\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2772\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2772\" title=\"comment1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/comment1.png?resize=545%2C229\" alt=\"\" width=\"545\" height=\"229\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2772\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comment from Fractalforums.com<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2773\" style=\"width: 590px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalforums.com\/competitions-and-contests\/international-benoit-mandelbrot-fractal-art-contest-2011\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2773\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2773\" title=\"comment2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/comment2.png?resize=545%2C137\" alt=\"\" width=\"545\" height=\"137\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2773\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comment from Fractalforums.com<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2774\" style=\"width: 592px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fractalforums.com\/competitions-and-contests\/international-benoit-mandelbrot-fractal-art-contest-2011\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2774\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2774\" title=\"comment3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/comment3.png?resize=545%2C216\" alt=\"\" width=\"545\" height=\"216\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2774\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Comment on Fractalforums.com<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Fractal Ken hit the nail on the head.\u00a0 Will the organizer&#8217;s, Damien Jones&#8217;s hand picked fractal art &#8220;experts&#8221; from the old days fully appreciate or even know much about the 3D fractal revolution?\u00a0 Fractalforums.com where these comments were posted is the place all those 3D discoveries and advancements were announced and discussed; it&#8217;s natural that folks there need some convincing that the BMFAC has any real relevance to what they see as the mainstream fractal art form today <em>&#8211;3D fractals.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here at Orbit Trap we&#8217;ve gained a reputation for criticizing the BMFAC primarily because of their choice of judges and how those judges (used to) give themselves winning positions in the contest by adding their work to the exhibition.\u00a0 But now, the sneaky way the judges have been chosen (and stayed on for years) raises a new question, &#8220;Are the judges even competent to judge today&#8217;s 3D fractals?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One of the most stunning developments in the 3D revolution was the sudden appearance of high quality fractal programs devoted to the new 3D fractal artform.\u00a0 Ultra Fractal (whose author is a\u00a0 judge) isn&#8217;t the program of choice for the new breed of 3D fractal artists.\u00a0 What relevance do all those veteran UF artists and programmers have when it comes to being experts in judging artwork that wasn&#8217;t made with UF and which the judges themselves have no expertise in?\u00a0 What exactly are they &#8220;experts&#8221; of anymore?\u00a0<em> Old style (2D) fractal art made by people like themselves?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I suppose Damien could add a few folks like Jesse Dierks (Jesse) or Krzysztof (buddhi) Marczak the authors of Mandelbulb 3D and Mandelbulber.\u00a0 Or how about Christian Kleinhuis the owner and host of Fractalforums.com (3D fractal central)?\u00a0 He&#8217;s had his finger on the pulse of 3D fractals as long as anyone.\u00a0 There&#8217;s a bunch of others too, like Tom Lowe (recent &#8220;Nobel&#8221; prizewinner) and others who are all equally qualified to judge the quality and importance of 3D fractals because<em> that&#8217;s their chosen area of expertise in fractal art.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Of course, that&#8217;s the typical BMFAC way of doing things.\u00a0 What would be even better is to approach some <em><strong>ART<\/strong><\/em> people who might be better qualified to judge <em><strong>ART<\/strong><\/em>work.\u00a0 But as Terry so eloquently said, &#8220;Mathematicians are the celebrities of fractal art&#8221;.\u00a0 And I guess Math Conferences are the Paris cafes of fractal art.\u00a0 Hey, maybe Jeremie Brunet?\u00a0 Aka &#8220;bib&#8221;.\u00a0 He&#8217;s from Paris, or close to it.\u00a0 One French artist is as good as 10 math Phds.\u00a0 Maybe 1000?\u00a0 He&#8217;s had his own public exhibitions (in Paris, too) and been on TV.\u00a0 (I wonder how he did that without any help from Benoit Mandelbrot&#8217;s name or any sponsors?)\u00a0 How many of the so-called &#8220;expert&#8221; judges of the BMFAC have done<em> any<\/em> of that?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps good fractal art doesn&#8217;t need a contest (or a celebrity name) to promote it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Responses at Fractal Forums.com to the recent announcement of the Benoit Mandelbrot Fractal Art Contest 2011 suggest to me that a lot of things have changed in the fractal art world since the BMFAC was initiated back in&#8230; \u00a1Ay, caramba!\u00a0 &#8211;2006! ~ Click on images to go to original site ~ Fractal Ken hit the &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=2769\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2772,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2769","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/orbittrap.ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/comment1.png?fit=580%2C244","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3572,"url":"http:\/\/orbittrap.ca\/?p=3572","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":0},"title":"Best Fractal Calendar Ever!","author":"Tim","date":"1 December, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Christian Kleinhuis of Fractalforums.com has just published a 2010 fractal calendar. 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