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	<title>Comments on: Fractal Art, Phase Two</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Velocipede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Velocipede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s quite normal to categorize art by nationality and things like that. American Impressionism is different than French Impressionism. There have been many books, articles, and gallery shows focusing on art made by women, or art made by gay men, or art made by people with no formal training. Art historians love to categorize and sort things like that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for which brush was used, that&#039;s more usually a means of distinguishing one painter from another. &quot;Artist A uses loose, open brushwork in his portraits, while Artist B has a smoothly-blended style.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#39;s quite normal to categorize art by nationality and things like that. American Impressionism is different than French Impressionism. There have been many books, articles, and gallery shows focusing on art made by women, or art made by gay men, or art made by people with no formal training. Art historians love to categorize and sort things like that.</p>
<p>As for which brush was used, that&#39;s more usually a means of distinguishing one painter from another. &quot;Artist A uses loose, open brushwork in his portraits, while Artist B has a smoothly-blended style.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Cavalcante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guido Cavalcante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you call like &quot;phase two&quot; will only be possible when fractal artists leave the vain belief that the purpose of art is only to produce beautiful visual works. The beauty as the first step to accomplish the medium is understandable , because the initial challenge  was to produce art works from mathematical elements. So,  was needed to know if  could be possible to produce visual objects with a greater aesthetic value than mere representation of its mathematical nature. It was also necessary to know whether was possible to identify some &quot;truth&quot;, something that could establish a deeper bond with thoughts and feelings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, almost without being noticed, that intention of create objects with aesthetic value introduced the first major difficulty or contradiction in the fractal works: if  was not possible to create them on realistic traditional ways, with the use of perspective, with  forms borrowed from nature and with natural colors,  how then assume that fractal can express the neatly integrated world and reality  as &quot;natural, beautiful and known,&quot; like art until the nineteenth century had shown? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under such a round of circunstances the beauty as it was tradicionally known is not possible – is not even possible to assure there is some beauty there!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We face a huge challenge: to determine once and for all that the beauty of the world does not matter. That is, what is in the image is not what counts but, paradoxically, what the image does not represent - the absence of reality - is what must interests us. The problem for artists is... - What to do to give a meaning to such a thing? Well, this is also a big issue for all modern art: it is no longer making art what matters, but to say what art is what counts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to finish with an edition of few sentences taken from the introductory pages of  Arthur C. Danto´s   The Madonna of the Future, telling how he does his art critic work: “In general what I undertake to do in these reviwes is to describe what the work is about – what it means – and how this meaning is embodied in the work (...) the being of a work of art is its meaning. Art is a mode of thought and experiencing art consists of thought engaging with thought. It is, I suppose, possibily to treat a work of art as a mere thing to gratify the eyes (...) but even the most optically engaging art is a vehicle of meaning, wich has to be unpacked to do more by way of criticism tham simply to express one´s pleasure in it.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Art is meaning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you call like &quot;phase two&quot; will only be possible when fractal artists leave the vain belief that the purpose of art is only to produce beautiful visual works. The beauty as the first step to accomplish the medium is understandable , because the initial challenge  was to produce art works from mathematical elements. So,  was needed to know if  could be possible to produce visual objects with a greater aesthetic value than mere representation of its mathematical nature. It was also necessary to know whether was possible to identify some &quot;truth&quot;, something that could establish a deeper bond with thoughts and feelings.</p>
<p>Thus, almost without being noticed, that intention of create objects with aesthetic value introduced the first major difficulty or contradiction in the fractal works: if  was not possible to create them on realistic traditional ways, with the use of perspective, with  forms borrowed from nature and with natural colors,  how then assume that fractal can express the neatly integrated world and reality  as &quot;natural, beautiful and known,&quot; like art until the nineteenth century had shown? </p>
<p>Under such a round of circunstances the beauty as it was tradicionally known is not possible – is not even possible to assure there is some beauty there!</p>
<p>We face a huge challenge: to determine once and for all that the beauty of the world does not matter. That is, what is in the image is not what counts but, paradoxically, what the image does not represent &#8211; the absence of reality &#8211; is what must interests us. The problem for artists is&#8230; &#8211; What to do to give a meaning to such a thing? Well, this is also a big issue for all modern art: it is no longer making art what matters, but to say what art is what counts.</p>
<p>I want to finish with an edition of few sentences taken from the introductory pages of  Arthur C. Danto´s   The Madonna of the Future, telling how he does his art critic work: “In general what I undertake to do in these reviwes is to describe what the work is about – what it means – and how this meaning is embodied in the work (&#8230;) the being of a work of art is its meaning. Art is a mode of thought and experiencing art consists of thought engaging with thought. It is, I suppose, possibily to treat a work of art as a mere thing to gratify the eyes (&#8230;) but even the most optically engaging art is a vehicle of meaning, wich has to be unpacked to do more by way of criticism tham simply to express one´s pleasure in it.” </p>
<p>Art is meaning!</p>
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		<title>By: jockc</title>
		<link>http://orbittrap.ca/?p=406&#038;cpage=1#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>jockc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, fractal art must have fractal elements.  By fractal elements I mean primarily self similarity at many levels.  This would typically manifest as spirals, repeated or nested shapes and so on. The sample image you posted is a lovely image but does not have much of what I would call fractal elements.  I would call it algorithmic/digital art, not fractal art.  I don&#039;t think something is fractal art merely because a fractal program was used to create it.   Of course opinions will vary.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as UF layering, it&#039;s a technique just like any other--it allows more color and depth in an image, which fits with my style.  It is not intrinsically bad.  My pure UF images average from 5 to 15 layers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, fractal art must have fractal elements.  By fractal elements I mean primarily self similarity at many levels.  This would typically manifest as spirals, repeated or nested shapes and so on. The sample image you posted is a lovely image but does not have much of what I would call fractal elements.  I would call it algorithmic/digital art, not fractal art.  I don&#39;t think something is fractal art merely because a fractal program was used to create it.   Of course opinions will vary.  </p>
<p>As far as UF layering, it&#39;s a technique just like any other&#8211;it allows more color and depth in an image, which fits with my style.  It is not intrinsically bad.  My pure UF images average from 5 to 15 layers.</p>
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